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Together with Sakuretsu Armor, all of these cards reduce the opponent's threat options
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at the time of the release, there was a lot of hype surrounding the Charizard V and the Chazizard Vmax
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I suppose these decks could come with effects that let you put non-legendary creatures into your command zone during play, to help meet most of our conditions, though that raises even more questions about playing them and whether they become commanders or not
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The number of time counters is checked at the time the ability resolves
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The best way is to playtest with it
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